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Ally Trading/Buying

Discussion in 'Kingdom Building' started by Hermione, Sep 14, 2017.

  1. Hermione

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    Ally Trading (Beginner Guide - requested)
    Allies are very useful in kingdoms of heckfire.
    1. Allies contribute to the gold you loot from monsters.
    When you attack monsters/titans, you get gold from the basic attack, then also a gold from allies bonus. Depending on the ally you buy, you can get more gold.

    In this example of a monster attack, you see two sets of loot won from this goblin attack. The top one was the amount you would normally win in the attack if you didn't have allies. The second one is additional loot won because of the allies. Add the two numbers to get the total loot won from that attack. Higher ally stats = More loot from allies.
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    Here you can see the ally bonus from the same monster attack. This is the bonus that was given based on the allies you had at the time of the attack.

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    2. Allies give your army a bonus attack strength.


    In this battle report, you see that there were base stats that the attacker and defender had, but below that, you'll see the bonus they got from having allies in that specific biome where the attack took place.

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    The player on the left had a 24.7% boost from 28 allies in swamp. The player on the right had one ally, but didn't have any swamp bonus, and didn't get a bonus from allies.

    You can also do biome specific research for additional stats from allies.


    You have a maximum amount of allies you can have at one time. Upgrade your Waritorium and build and upgrade embassies for more ally slots. If you find you're running out of ally slots and have too much gold, you may want to start buying more expensive allies whenever yours sell. Always make sure you get the best deal you can for your ally. Shop around, don't buy the first one you see.



    When looking at the ally info in a player's profile, you'll see their ally value. This is how much you can earn from a player by hiring them. Usually, a player's cost goes up when they have better stats because more people want to hire them.

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    (Most of these stats are shared with me)

    This is one player's ally info that can be seen on their profile. This is what you get when you buy them.

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    Going into their Waritorium brings up different tabs. The middle tab shows the total bonus they get from all of their allies total on the different biome types.

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    When deciding on an ally, you'll be presented with many choices. Even if two allies cost the same, they may not cost the same amount of gold. One thing you'll want to consider when buying allies is how much they cost, and how much of a bonus you can get from buying them. Which one of these two would you rather buy?

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    They both cost the same exact amount of gold, but with their dragons research etc, the bonus from the top guy is bigger than that of the bottom guy. Look at all 3 biomes and compare them. Get an idea of what you'd want to pay for certain stats and stick to that requirement until you can afford to buy better allies.

    If someone is constantly buying an ally, you'll need to set a price on that ally for what you feel they're worth. If they pass that price, move on to another ally.

    Some clans are iffy about you buying allies belonging to fellow clan mates, so if you're in a clan, check who owns them first.

    If someone is buying your allies, you may also want to see who is buying it. If it's being bought by someone who generally attacks you, you may not want to buy that ally back. That person may buy the ally right before attacking you. You may also not want to have a specific ally that you keep forever. This will let people be able to predict which ally you'll have and easily find that ally you buy from you right before attacking.

    See my KoH Guide for details on gold list from allies.
    KoH Guide (Ally Section)<==Link

    One thing players take advantage of is volleys. If you volley an ally, you stand to make quite a bit of gold. To volley a player, you just need 2 or more people to hire an ally back and forth with you. You may have a set amount of gold you want to volley the ally up to, or you go until one of you can't buy anymore. One of the dangers of this is being stuck with an overpriced ally. The ally costs more than you feel they are worth.
    With each ally purchase from you, you gain the gold you put in to buy the ally PLUS an additional 1.57-1.58% of that ally's cost. It's a nice way to earn some extra gold. The ally that was bought will also earn some gold (up to 10,000 gold) each time they're hired.
    I'll get an actual percentage when I get home.
     
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    Reserved. I just made this thread, but am at work, so I may have more to add later.
     
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    Reserved just in case
     
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    Reserved just in case.
    Guide as requested. If I missed something, feel free to comment. I was at work, so I couldn't check every single thing. I'll make a link later to the thread with ally gold

    Some Useful Links:

    How To Train Your Dragon <==Link
    KoH Guide (For New Players in KoH) <==Link
    Ally Trading/Buying (Guide for New Players) <== link
    More Unlock Orders (Research and Upgrades in KoH) <==Link
    Tips For Troop/Resource Protection (For New Players in KoH) <==Link
    Rude's TH Breakdown (might ore costs etc) <== LINK
    Rude's Calculate Ally Gold KoH FAQs <== Link <==Link
    KoH FAQs <== Link
     
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    #5 Hermione, Sep 14, 2017
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  6. RubberxDucky

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    I see why you asked me how I made that sections tab for my guide now😂
     
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    Lol, I was thinking of doing it for the other guide...but it opens up in a new page when I try to link one from the same thread I was actually just asked by someone if I had a guide on allies today, and decided to do one while at work, lol. Totally was unplanned.
     
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    Maybe the devs can change it so it doesn't open up a new tab... i mean it's still convenient though😁
     
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    Ally gold you gain when trading is somewhere between 1.5 and 1.6 percent... I'll have to do it with cheaper allies to get an exact number...
     
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    Do you get your money back when you drop an ally?
     
  11. Fear

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    Yes, you get a portion of your money back (I think its around 50% or 60%, and it may increase based on the time you've owned the ally)
     
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    Very nice thread. Very informative.
     
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    What do I do if an ally seems stuck. For example I hired him and I've now had him for 2 weeks or a little more?
     
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    Ally’s don’t get stuck, lol. It can be totally normal to keep an ally for an allotted amount of time before someone else buys them. They might not be getting hired because they cost more than they should (eg, 10m gold and only 4 or 5% total biome bonus) or they just haven’t been “discovered” yet if they are really underpriced. Also, if you really want to sell, you can always ask in your realm chat.
     
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    Does anyone know what percentage ally costs increase when bought/ fall when dropped?
     
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    You lose 40% of the original cost of the ally.

    if I bought a ally for 100k, the ally will increase to 105k (5% increase) when I drop the ally I will get 60k back.
     

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