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Exploited PvP hacks

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by DeathBaeMine, Jun 14, 2019.

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are you more PvP or PvE?

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  1. DeathBaeMine

    DeathBaeMine New Citizen

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    Ata please do something.
    There is a broken and exploited PvP system in this game that doesn’t reward nor punish massive domination of one clan vs the realm. The TK leaderboard does nothing but cause bullying.

    Paying for a ticket to get the coolest rewards for the event, and then being bullied out of the ability to log on and play.
    A clan is actively cheating using a modified hack and no one will listen to us. The realm can’t even log on for a moment to play the required dailies. Shields are going down before their time!

    It feels like the game promotes this behavior far pass its expectations of friendly PvP gameplay and that’s a huge problem. If this game was completely PvP then all the quest would require it. Please find a balance or the players are just going to keep quitting thinking ata cares so little about their player environment.
     
  2. dlz9345X

    dlz9345X Liked Citizen

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    Wait how would you even hack this game? It’s not like there’s aimbot or something.... the only thing I can think of is cheating in rss or gems and well, you should report them via help ticket or discord.

    Don’t really see how you can be bullied out of coming on and playing. I get maybe you were zeroed or people are stealing your mobs. Listen. EVERYONE has probably been zeroed sometime before (Ok maybe not everyone but most people).

    Learn from your mistakes. Move away, shield, hide. If you really think a clan from the realm is bullying you, >SWITCH REALMS<. Ask your clan to move to another realm or just move yourself. That’s what we did and it worked.

    I agree, the TK leaderboard pretty dumb and useless. Still, removing it really won’t change the game or the bullying. In the end, a person that’s a donkey hole is still a donkey hole.

    Also no. This game is not completely PvP nor is it completely PvE. In the future, ATA is considering making PvE realms (I think), but for now, it’s a WAR game. What the heck is ‘friendly’ PvP anyway? I think it’s pretty balanced. You most definetely should be able to attack someone mercilessly. I believe that there are several systems in place to make sure it’s balanced. FFA doesn’t grant points to attacking lower town halls. It incentivizes you to attack players near your “level” (TH). The ally gold system prevents gold stealing. Plus, the defender side most definetely has the advantage (400k troops vs like 2 mil troops or something).

    I just think that there should be a mercy period after maybe 20-50 attacks if your town hall is like ~10 less than the attacker, where your troops don’t die but you can still be looted. Some other commonly requested changes, like T1 troops being replace in hospital for t3 troops. Huntresses over knights. These things could possibly be expanded on, but it’s up to the future to tell.
     
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  3. TitanYoinker

    TitanYoinker New Citizen

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    Here's the thing... this clan has roots in almost every realm. Every member who has tried to escape to another realm has been hunted down and zeroed in that realm as well. It's to the point now where they've got their people in every clan just sitting and attacking them, taking mobs, taking event mobs, knocking off resource node. One claims he is ata. Honestly, the realm is dead at this point. I log on to reup a shield, hide troops, and set my training. I dont try for dragon quests or anything anymore. At 400m I still cant do much about the several 1b+ players.
     
  4. Tiashue

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    ATA never do this. I can 100% guarantee he is lying.
     
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  5. DeathBaeMine

    DeathBaeMine New Citizen

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    They should be held accountable for claiming such a thing. It can be damaging to the morale of a great game.
     
  6. DeathBaeMine

    DeathBaeMine New Citizen

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    I love your ideas. No I wasn’t zeroed tho, I’m seeing players drop like flies because of complete domination. It’s one thing to play the PvP aspect that’s involved in the game. But it’s another thing to exploit the abilities to bully and actively force a player out.
    At that point, they lose players to the biggest wallets. Just doesn’t seem there is any care for the little or middle ranged players.
     
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  7. Multiplat

    Multiplat Helpful Citizen

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    Well, you hit the nail on the head. ATA cares about income above all else so they won't do anything to hinder the game for the big spenders. The problem is that those big spenders tend to use their new found "power" to bully smaller players. This leads to many players and potential spenders to quit.

    ATA just doesnt seem to understand the concept that they dont need to adhere to the few big spenders. Making quality of life changes to adhere to the low- to mid-range players will bring in more income since more players would continue playing.

    One day ATA may grasp that concept and we can have a good solid game. 👍
     
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  8. Smaak

    Smaak New Citizen

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    I’ve seen games like this primarily fail since they focus on short term gain vs longer term player stability. Protect newer and midrange players and afford an area for exclusive to top level players in higher stakes pvp against like minded zealots. The game needs to evolve and offer the top players something else to do rather than continually zero each other or stay shielded otherwise that money will eventually go elsewhere with a company that does listen.
    They also need a more forum friendly presence as currently general realm consensus is they don’t listen or at least reply to any of these forum postings and no where to contact them directly for an actual response.
     
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  9. Maev

    Maev New Citizen

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    You kidding, been dealing with a credit card guild for a week and ATA is like "Not our problem bro." Never mind that we have been receiving threats and are being actively stalked around the map. All ATA cares about is the $$$$$.
     
  10. Multiplat

    Multiplat Helpful Citizen

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    Welcome to KOH.
     
  11. Just_A_Ghost

    Just_A_Ghost Citizen

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    Meh!
    I've been zeroed a few times.
    On the second occasion I was pissed.
    I've gotten over it, stopped whining and rebuilt.
    If you want to grow you have to spend.
    Life is full of spending options, i choose to spend on this game because, at this point, i enjoy playing.
    I don't do drugs, drink, hang out with bad ppl, drive, lie mmmm, yeah. Oh I believe in Santa, the truth fairy, the world is flat and governments have our best interests in mind.
    There have to be, clever, strong, and wealthy ppl
    The clever invent, the wealthy supply the means for the invention to perpetuate, the strong...lift heavy things .
    There have to be stupid, weak and poor ppl.
    The stupid still believe the world is flat, the weak can't lift heavy things and the poor made bad spending decisions.
    😂
     
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  12. dlz9345X

    dlz9345X Liked Citizen

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    Absolutely.

    You can’t blame spenders for being spenders. When you talk about these people “exploiting” PvP, you are only talking about a portion of the spenders. I know tons of spenders that just chill and play one of their favorite games with their friends. Some people may pop in bucks because they really enjoy this game.

    Then, some people are just ***** that waste their time gloating about how much more money they spent than you did. It’s not exactly ATAs fault for having these people.

    Of course, this doesn’t mean that I don’t want some quality of life changes to help smaller people. Absolutely, there shouldn’t be town hall 25s going around zeroing th 10s. That’s up to us to help ATA find plausible solutions and ATA to implement solutions to stop this.

    Repeating over and over to ATA, “YOU GUYS SUCK, WHY IS THIS A THING, FIX IT YOU NUBS” ain’t gonna fix this problem.
     
  13. Multiplat

    Multiplat Helpful Citizen

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    To be fair, most of us who bash ATA have provided viable fixes to the game. We bash ATA because instead of listening to the player base, ATA is more concerned with how to bring in more cash. It is just annoying for a company to completely ignore their playerbase. 👍
     
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  14. dlz9345X

    dlz9345X Liked Citizen

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    I totally agree, although I haven’t checked out discord yet so I’m not sure about how much progress and influence we have over there.
     
  15. GOLDROCK

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    I’m not saying it’s right or how it should be but the hard truth is this...When you play games like this one(MMO war building base games) or say Rise of Kingdoms(my fav) If you’re not willing to spend some money? There is no point of playing outside of the social aspect of these games! You will hit a paywall in all these games at some point! Facts! Some worse then others..Now I will say in ROK, If in a great alliance and with the right commanders and a lot of playing? Lol You absolutely can be relevant in the later part of the game and make a difference for your alliance! So I love that...Now In this game unless you’re prob top 50-100? More or less is Farmville 2.0! With raids and challenges that pay peanuts and breadcrumbs! Smh And if you are in a crappy realm, you will be farmed nonstop if you are free to play player who can’t afford shields! Most of my clan is ftp but we are lucky that we are in a awesome realm where For the most part, attacks only happen in the FFA...When we merged a few weeks ago, we all were worried that the top clans coming in would destroy our realm! But it turned out to be the opposite they saw what bullying and 24/7 attacks does to a realm! Only reason why I stay! I’m a spender but I refuse to give this crappy company my money! Esp with the no value rip off packs they offer(i’ve played to many of these games to know what good packs are lol) Oh I did buy the .99 cent starter pack! Most of these war games now offer daily discounted packs for the light spenders and I don’t mean five dollar packs! I’m talking .99 cent to $2.99 deals! This company would be very wise to start offering that up and putting more value into their packs! The Todd pack that is offered right now is the 3rd and only pack since I started 2 months ago or so I’d buy! The rest are garbage! Anyway my 2 cents lol
     
  16. GOLDROCK

    GOLDROCK Citizen

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    So I think ATA has done something’s right recently! I’ve dropped a few buck here and there and I agree! If you have the money and you really enjoy the game there are more stupid things to spend your money on trust me I know as much as free to play players pate spenders well that’s pretty much how I feel about non-spenders just because how whiny they are and everything else ! Look when I got up to around 250k, give or take..Major slow down(research) was about to leave the game but my old clan merged with an incredible clan that pushes me, makes me want to compete and be able to jump into battles..so I spent some! I love the game... I still wish the developers would change a few things and not be as greedy and they really do need to start giving out more gems again but I think they’ve actually made some good decisions lately and I think the game has gotten better! And let me add this with a couple mergers or merges that went on with my realm if all the spenders decided to get rid of the free to play players(they are not lol) it’s actually one server that would be OK because about 80% or more of my server... are spenders! I do like that I’m not gonna lie
     

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